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Millions of rounds of ammunition stolen on Mexican highway

Millions of rounds of ammunition stolen on Mexican highway

TelemetryGeo

They meant to say- "Once again the Mexican military has sold weapons and ammunition to a cartel and made it look like a theft, said General (insert name here) speaking poolside from his beachfront mansion".


irishwonder

It was awful! They approached our supply convoy from all angles and hit us with supply orders and requisition forms! We had no choice but to assist them in off-loading the cargo and promptly return to base!


batchmimicsgod

>A company representative said about 98.5% of the millions of rounds of ammo stolen earlier this week were .22 caliber, which is seldom used by Mexican drug cartels. Another stupid person reading news through titles only.


SamWinchester79

came here to post this they aren't military rounds they are small game or target practicing rounds. unless the cartel has a rabbit problem these probably wont be of much use


shaddoxic

22s are lethal, tho. Its not a joke round. I heard a story of a cop attempting to apprehend a guy, cop put his hand up to mean Stop. Guy plugged him with a 22 to the palm. It traveled up the cops arm, into his chest, and bounced around, killing him. It is the round most favored by professional assassins.


SamWinchester79

so are pellet guns and bows and arrows. also if you want to get this deep into this maybe they hit the shipment for the $ value of the ammunition because .22 cal always goes into short supply and maybe they are going to resell it for $$


shaddoxic

That makes sense. They are a money making bunch!


Hanigers-Dong

That sounds like prime Fudd lore.


shaddoxic

I really have no idea what you are saying. I am curious, though.


Hanigers-Dong

The gun equivalent of "walking to school in the snow uphill both ways". Basically a story that never really happened, but it gets passed around because it sounds cool.


GodOfChickens

I can see what you mean but the story reads plausible from what I know, any actual bullet even .22 will go through a lot of flesh, and I have read before that small calibre bullets such as .22 are frequently used in executions due to their tendency to enter the skull once and bounce around, doing more damage than a larger bullet that goes straight through, (if I remember right I may have read this while reading up on the extremely prolific soviet executioner Vasily Blokhin, who preferred using a Walther model 2 .25 ACP pistol, a round of similar power to .22) so it makes sense that bouncing off arm bone at the perfect angle could lead this to happen in the chest cavity too.


Hanigers-Dong

I'm not disputing the bouncing. That is a documented thing. But going through someone's hand and entire arm while still maintaining enough energy to bounce around the chest and kill someone isn't happening.


shaddoxic

Bet you wouldn't volunteer to test it out! 20 bucks, done deal. Maybe it is a rumor, but I dont know why it would be impossible. Flesh isnt that tight. Edit spelled tight tighr.


GodOfChickens

I'm not saying it's a likely scenario at all but I don't see it as impossible either. I imagine if it went up the entire arm I imagine you'd be right it wouldn't have the energy, but I can easily imagine a path through parts of the arm travelling into the chest that would still retain significant energy, this table shows .22lr from a short barrel can go through on average 30cm of ballistic gel, so I don't see why, given the perfect path, it couldn't go through a fairly sizable chunk of hand and arm and into the chest while retaining more than enough energy to kill some vital organs and bounce at least once. https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/pocket-pistol-caliber-gel-test-results/#22Mag


TelemetryGeo

There's zero reason the military would be in possession of millions of .22 caliber rounds, it's absolutely worthless. The story was tweaked so the public didn't demand accountability. -another armchair Redditor assuming people are morons. Go back to your Cheerios.


WiWiWiWiWiWi

Seldom used, but how often resold? Does the cartel often use meth and cocaine too, or just sell it?


-fisting4compliments

That's probably not far from the truth. The war on drugs is destroying Mexico. The Cartels are stronger than the government.


Brainiac7777777

The Cartels are not stronger than the Government. The Government just doesn’t want to go to full war because the last time that happened many civilians were used as hostages and body shields by the cartels.


WiWiWiWiWiWi

The fact the government is scared of going to “full war” means the cartel are stronger.


userturbo2020

Define stronger.


Vogad

Cartel literally bought the whole goverment


userturbo2020

So they are the government?


Brainiac7777777

You really don’t understand how war works. This is a domestic issue, not a overseas war in another country. If The South started killing Southern civilians during the Civil War I promise you that Lincoln would be hesitant.


TheWholeRichard

They will be resold so fast and easy its basically cash.


Tevo569

I already have my order in. .22 is getting fucking hard to come by in my area


LordRumBottoms

Is it really? Where abouts are you? Here in NC its basically all I can find. Those boxes with hundreds of rounds. I did luck out and find 50 packs of 9mm. It's the new toilet paper.


Deathray88

Piedmont NC here. All my local places actually have packed shelves as of recently. Prices ain't great (not as bad as they were 6 months ago though) but the quantity is definitely a lot better.


Tevo569

MI unfortunately. ammobuy(dot)com has been my savior as of late


LordRumBottoms

Oh wow. Thanks a bunch for that link! Definitely will use it.


SillyCubensis

In other news 12 .22 caliber miniguns capable of firing 6,000 rounds per minute were stolen in an adjacent state. Authorities are unclear whether the crimes are connected.


qwertash1

Conservatively 30 minutes of firing per gun


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SillyCubensis

https://youtu.be/3vGobePvnTQ


TuorSonOfHuor

If you’re just killing your civilian rivals or dissidents it would be very effective. The cartels are killing their neighbors with these weapons, they’re not waging a war against armored vehicles and troops with flak jackets.


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teknoprisoners

I believe they were joking.


ksquad80

Drivers found alive. Clearly Mike Ehrmantraut.


GOP_Worships_Satan

millions of rounds of ammo delivered on schedule you mean


Almighty_Sand_Dollar

Is there anywhere in Mexico that is safe? It really seems to be getting worse over there


zeyore

I'm glad the drivers were found alive.


Zencyde

It was mostly .22 LR ammunition, which is about as small of a caliber that you'll reasonably find anyone using. This isn't defensive or offensive ammunition. I have a small .50 Cal ammo box with about 7,000 rounds of .22 in it. If they stole about 7 million, as per the article, then we're talking about 1,000 of these boxes. This is about 50,000 pounds of cargo.


TheWholeRichard

It's easy. You back another trailer up to the first one and put a piece of metal between them. If it was on pallets one man with a pallet jack could do it in 10 minutes.


Zencyde

I should have been more clear that this number is VERY low. For example, an equivalent amount of .556, the standard cartridge for an AR-15, would weigh closer to 150,000 pounds. My personal favorite round, .308, would clock in at about 375,000 pounds. Wow!


TheWholeRichard

Which would be over the axle weight limit in every state and probably break the trailer floor.


Water_Bell

Can anyone from mexico tell us : What are some safe places in mexico?


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Water_Bell

thanks


Ric_FIair

the new Mexico


GeometricRazor

Yeah... that was a setup. "Hey Juan... want to make a lot of pesos?..."


GoldenJoe24

> delivered FTFY


GOP_Worships_Satan

US military should go wipe out the cartels.


Vogad

Us military can’t even wipe out guerilla Vietnamese in jungle , and or farmers and herders in Afghanistan


BigANT_Edwards

They’d only need to go to Langley.


GOP_Worships_Satan

1980s called and wants its controversies back.


BigANT_Edwards

> 1980s called They also want their tired jokes back…


TGW_2

Anyone from the 1980's, is tired . . .