Shooting yourself in the foot as Fux News host
By - DonaldWillKillUsAll
As a non American, I once thought that Tucker Carlson was meant to be a joke. I also remember that I believed that the human kind had some self respect back then.
> I once thought that Tucker Carlson was meant to be a joke.
I mean, his lawyers did once argue in court that no reasonable person would take him seriously.
Unfortunately there are a lot of unreasonable people who do just that. It's his target demographic
same argument alex jones's lawyers made. it's the "free speech, i was just kidding, ha-ha, no reasonable person should believe me" defense.
They successfully argued it.
From the Trump appointed judge's opinion.
..."This “general tenor” of the show should then inform a viewer that he is not “stating actual facts” about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in “exaggeration” and “non-literal commentary.” … Given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer ‘arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism’"...
Bizarre times we live in.
Unfortunately, we have a number of jokes just like him. Even some who are worse.
As an American (U.S. Citizen to be clear), I apologize in advance for people like him.
You don't have to, every country has some kind of scapegoat, it's just that it's not always the case that they are known on the international level.
Though I recently saw a talk from him where he said something along the lines of "America is the greatest country in the world, therefore every other country should follow American orders and help American interest", I have to admit that I thought that this guy deserve an award for being one of the biggest douchebag ever
Except Tucker Carlson isn't a scapegoat for a large portion of American people. He is the top watched program in the United States, and only part of those people are watching to make fun of him later. Way too many people watch him and either somewhat agree, or don't disagree with any thing he says. Shit is fucking disgusting, but it will prolly keep going.
> Way too many people watch him and either somewhat agree, or don't disagree with any thing he says.
This is my parents. They eat up everything he spits out without a second guess or thought
I've countered them numerous times with actual facts of things he's lied and misinformed viewers about and they refuse to believe the great Tucker Carlson and Fox News is wrong about anything.
I've given up fighting them and just nod my head and go "uh huh yeah" to anything they say now.
I hope you're out of that environment.
We kind of have the same problem with a few program in my country. The main difference is that people that watch them wouldn't admit it publically since it was agreed that those were garbage. At least that's how it was until recently, it seems that part of what those people say is getting normalised, and this is clearly a problem. I also feel that this is happening a bit everyday nowadays, and I really hope that it is a kind of phase and that it will pass at some point.
Edit: though yeah it might be bad to have this stuff as top program on TV
If you discuss politics with people on the right, then you know they definitely take him literally and any guest on his show is speaking the absolute truth (in their eyes). I watch his show clips here and there to predict what my Republican friends will talk about and it is almost like he sends them talking points. Whatever he's bitching about or claiming will come up almost instantly in any political conversation. It is a bummer.
yeah like Ben not-so-Sharpiro (I know it's Shapiro, I'm making a joke)
That's fair. Steven Colbert was a joke and it took some folks a liiiiittle too long to get it.
This just reminds me of people getting angry with Jon Stewart without realising he was running a comedy show.
His show was on a network called Comedy Central. The other guys are on a network called Fox News.
Fox News Entertainment
They're entertainment, not news (according to their lawyers)
If only people knew.
The funny thing is that the two of them were far more informative than Fox News. No exaggeration, [they did a study](https://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5).
No, I remember that! And Stewart had to inform everyone that he was a comedy show! That was great and showed how American media has become a farce.
The sad thing is American media has a huge influence, every time I see the Indian news all I can think is that these guys are FOX on steroids.
as an american i also thought he was a joke at first. but no, he is a real tragedy of a person
Also it ties back to an older President, Nixon. It’s pretty interesting how Fox News was created and how Nixon used the idea of media for his propaganda, but only for it to backfire on him later on. A lot of people don’t know that.
>It’s pretty interesting how Fox News was created and how Nixon used it for his propaganda
What? Fox News was founded in 1996, well after the Nixon administration. What are you referencing?
Look up Roger Ailes... https://www.businessinsider.com/roger-ailes-blueprint-fox-news-2011-6?utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=topbar
No no….noooo…no no no…big no
"Fuck Tucker, Tucker sucks"
- George Carlin
Thing is, Tucker Carlson isn’t saying anything, he’s just reading off a script!
A very calculated scrip, designed to spark controversy
Who writes his scripts?
It used to be a white supremacist until he outed himself as a white supremacist and got fired. Now it’s Probably a white supremacist that hasn’t outed themselves.
Nobody seems to remember that Tucker used to work for CNN.
He's literally a mouth piece for the highest bidder.
Probably not if fox drops him though, I doubt many companies want to be associated with his time on fox.
Yeah, I wouldn't think he'd have many options following Fox. OAN would probably take him.
John Stewart wrecking him on Crossfire is one of my favorite things ever.
Hey, I got an idea: let’s not talk about Tucker Carlson and give him free airtime.
Look, almost everyone thinks Tucker Carlson is g....
I don't get it
What is the context here? A specific episode?
I hope that someone will link a video showing both quotes soon haha
Maybe not the quote ur looking for but still a great one
Good lord that was a close one
Thanks. Read the whole thing. Clear to me that the tweet had everything to do with taking a jab at republicans. No substance. Nothing more.
Not every Republican is a domestic terrorist but every domestic terrorist is a Republican.
I thought there was no more overtly political posts allowed?
Rule 4 (b) and (c)
It think it depends on which side the post is on...
That's exactly what it is. They should amend Rule 4 to say so. This sub is as bad as /politics. I think I need to stop defaulting to believe that people are intellectually honest and default to assuming they aren't.
And tucker is right
You’re saying that all white republican men are terrorists?
not all of them. a lot of them are mere terrorist sympathizers
Since when was this sub political I don’t support a lot of the shit tucker Carlson gets being the only big name news anchor who shares the views of many republicans, society is devolving into the,”mock wrong opinions” mindset it’s disgusting
this is less censor bad opinions, and more make fun of them
Yeah I’ll change my comment to reflect that
i think we should just mock everyone, no exceptions. i'm sick of society telling me i can't bully school children. but nah, apparently im ''grossly inappropriate'' and ''unsuitable to ever teach again'' smh
>don’t support a lot of the shit tucker Carlson gets being the only big name news anchor who shares the views of many republicans
>society is devolving into the,”mock wrong opinions” mindset it’s disgusting
Pointing out his flawed logic isn't mocking.
Not every political view deserves respectful discourse, especially if that view is literally to do the opposite of everything your political opponent does.
Git Gud then. Donate to a political interest group, play the game of politics in motion since the eve of Mesopotamia.
The entire business model of his family needs to crumble with the firm knowledge that it was his fault...
Should handle itself shortly
Tucker Carlson, a domestic terrorist. Get the fuck outta here hahahahahah
Also, were't they pushing that it was actually Antifa? That is wasnt White republicans?
which is it, Tucker?
Hit dogs will holler
There is no shooting yourself in the foot with these people. I don’t know what to do about a group of people who have openly given up all morals/values just to win, and the other side is too spineless to stand up against them with anything more than wagging their fingers.
We are in for a hair pulling decade to come.
The thing is, both sides are playing the public to keep our minds busy fighting the “other side”.
It also goes to show how obviously projected everything they do is. White supremecists are bad? Clearly he's talking about republicans! It's getting too transparent to ignore anymore.
I’ll be honest, all the Republicans I know blow Tucker Carlsons dick with greater pressure than a fracking operation and are totally willing to put words in your mouth. You could put down a brick and leave; they’d have the exact same conversation.
I had homies drive two hours to smoke with me, try to proselytize some shit; they’d literally have a panic attack from slow comparison, deduction, induction, etymology, statistical analysis techniques, philosophy of science; etc. and they drive back without even smoking anything at all.. like I keep asking if we should just drop the subject and go to la taqueria to get high and eat burritos but they’re like “nah this isn’t even nearly as rigorous as the maths/philosophy classes we shared in undergrad” but because of its political nature.. they... cave. Like parts of their intellect, past curriculum vitae, resume, and even identity are neutered and they can’t help but go mum or enter circular logic.
It reminded me of when one’s faith is endangered when I was a devout Catholic. There’s some mental paperwork going awry here and everyone fears an audit.
Correct. Tucker is calling white men domestic terrorists.
And Joe Biden called black men predators.
**F U C K E M B O T H**
The "both sides are bad" argument only benefits republicans.
Also, the claim Joe Biden called black men predators in 1993 is another republican taking point that isn't even true.
The claim that he called them super predators is false. That was clinton.
But he called em predators. He’s on video saying it.
Btw, “both sides are bad benefits one side” is the most ridiculously flawed logic I have ever heard.
There is no left and right, only top and bottom. Educate yourself
The "both sides are bad" or "top and bottom" bullshit is how republicans spread voter apathy.
If people think that politics has no way to benefit them, they don't vote. And the fewer people voting the better the chance for republicans to win.
I know you want to sound mature and level-headed by calling out both sides, but you're just being manipulated.
The democrats suck. But the republicans are obviously worse.
Its not about maturity.
If you dont think the GOP and DNC are full of corrupt people, I don’t know what else to tell you
>If you dont think the GOP and DNC are full of corrupt people, I don’t know what else to tell you
>The democrats suck. But the republicans are obviously worse.
Those two points are not the same
You dropped your magnifying glass, Sherlock.
Okay so you admit, the point he is trying to make is invalid?
Sarcasm just goes over some people’s heads.
What about power bottoms?
Yes them and vers too
It actually isn’t flawed. Saying “both sides bad” means that you think that democrats are *as bad as* republicans. So all the voter suppression, stripping of bodily autonomy, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic, racist, pedophilic, fear mongering, anti-science, anti-intellectual, dog whistling, filibustering, regressive actions that republicans do, you think democrats are just as bad when they really aren’t. Only one side is trying to move forward and help the people of the country and do what’s best for the planet. The other side is republican.
If you think either side is doing anything to move this country forward, you are mistaken.
Progressive and progression are not the same thing
Both major parties have spent the 21st century engaging in unconstitutional wars that are killing thousands of innocent people across the globe. And they use the tax money of hard-working middle and low class Americans to do it.
Both sides have written legislation that has reduced the amount of freedom we have. Both sides have rubber stamped the Patriot Act and illegally spied on innocent Americans.
Both parties have waged an immoral “war on drugs” that has incarcerated people, mostly minorities, for non-violent drug crimes, and used those people for free labor...which is slavery with extra steps. This has led to the destruction of the black family unit and an opioid epidemic that has destroyed a generation.
I could go on and on and on, but let’s fast forward and save us some time: you’ll either deny all these facts or you’re not aware of them. Either way you’ll somehow try to blame the Republicans over the Democrats because you’ve already chosen your side and you root for them like a sports team and are uninterested in changing your mind based on pesky facts.
No matter what, it’s undeniable that the Democrats AND the Republicans are responsible for some of the most evil acts in human history. And it’s people like you that empower them to continue to destroy innocent people.
You want to bicker over which side has a bigger pile of corpses. The “both sides” people you make fun of are disgusted that our government is piling up corpses to begin with.
Just remember, the “both sides” people are the ones trying to prevent government-sponsored theft, rape, murder, and genocide. You’re the other guy. Shame on you.
That’s why you should vote for progressives and not just democrat. Funny thing that the only progressives seem to be non-republicans though.
As long as the candidate has a D or R next to their name they won’t get my vote. It doesn’t matter what ideas or agendas they claim to endorse, as long as they’re members of either major party they’ll become just another vote for more war and less freedom.
So yeah, if a candidate ran independently on a progressive platform I’d certainly listen to what they had to say and judge them accordingly. Unfortunately, they tend to run as Democrats.
This is a good mentality to have *after* the US implements ranked choice voting. That Geralt of Rivia “between two evils I won’t choose” mentality is actively detrimental to society. Yes, Dems are bad too, but they’re at least more reasonable than republicans and by voting properly, are willing to actually implement change for the better. Do your civic duty and don’t pout in the corner during elections.
I disagree. I don’t think the Democrats are less evil than the Republicans. They’re pretty much the same. They claim to support certain things, but they never really solve any issues. Both parties are racist warmongers who are in the pockets of the big banks and big business and actively work against the low and middle class citizens of this country.
Listen, bud, if you support hate, and death, and waging war against innocent people just admit it. But pretending that you’re being morally superior by voting for Democrats is just pathetic. You continue to empower the people committing the worst atrocities in human history. That’s not debatable; it’s a fact. That’s who you are.
I will never knowingly cast a vote that will lead to the murder of another innocent person. I spent years of my life being tricked in to doing that.
I hope one day you come to the same realization I did. Until you do, though, you just look like a damn, pompous fool looking down on everyone. “I vote Democrat so I’m morally superior.” You’re a joke.
I’m under no illusions that democrats are good, but holy fuck are republicans evil. Way more evil. Yes. Both parties are bad, but by not voting against the evil, or voting in a way that can move the country forward, you’re not morally superior either, you’re forfeiting the ability to enact change because you think you’re doing something important. If you think that dems are as bad as republicans then you’ve already fallen for right wing propaganda.
Grow a fucking spine. One side makes nazi salutes and suggests doing shots of bleach and fluorescent dildos c8re covid and the other side is a little bit old.
Obvious copium addict who gets mad about people comparing related quotes in a joking manner.
Another sub lost to politics.. smfh.
Trolls are supposed to be funny idiot
Not trying to be funny, but thanks.
Context? What is Tucker up to?
Can confirm that not all White Republican Men are domestic terrorists
The Trumpers for sure though.
The ones that are still left are definitely fucking crazy
Anyone else sick of seeing this political garbage. Both sides hate each other who cares.