T O P

This is like... seriously bad. Rape is rape, regardless of perpetrator or victim.

This is like... seriously bad. Rape is rape, regardless of perpetrator or victim.

Literally_-_Hitler

This shit gets me so pissed off. I was molested as a child by a woman. At the time I thought I was having fun, doing the things adults do. I should note that female predators seek vounerable prey. I tried killing myself right before and again after the abuse stopped. I have had so many issues with creating bonds with people. Leading to more issues with self harm and suicide attempts. The damage a woman can do to a child is grossly missrepresented by society.


whoiszia

I’m so sorry you had to go through that, and I’m even more sorry that we live in a world where not only is that kind of disgusting behavior is overlooked, but victims don’t even feel like they have a space to talk about their experiences and heal. Wishing you well


Literally_-_Hitler

Thank you. It means a lot.


whoiszia

No problem. My chats are always open if you need someone to talk to or to just tell your story. I went through something similar, and I know how much it can help to vent to a stranger. It helped me a lot. Regardless, I hope you’re doing ok now


[deleted]

That is truly, truly horrible. I’m so sorry that you went through that shit, and I hope that you are doing ok


_dogtown_

Right there with you. I made a whole host of crappy decisions throughout my adult life due to what happened to me as a kid from both men and women.


Dad-man

I don't wish to diminish your feelings or situation. I am in no way advocating for paedophilia either. I just wish to put another point of view, from another life experience. I was also fucked by an older woman, me 13, her in her 30s or 40s. it happened a few times and i now recognise the power imbalance. I understand how wrong it actually was, but, I was cool with it at the time, and still am. Later in life, I met a girl, a true nymphomaniac in her early twenties. Her bed room was like a sex shop with dildos and porn. No way i could keep up, she needed three guys... the point being, she said, at 13, a 40ish year old dude would pick her up from school at lunch time, every Wednesday, and take her to a hotel and fuck her. She loved it, had no regrets, and attributed it to her love of sex. So the question i ask is, if an observer thinks it's traumatising, should the child? Are we imposing the trauma by telling the child how they should be feeling bad, about what happened? Personally, this question has plagued me more than the act itself. Should i feel bad about what happened to me? What the nymph told me, initially cause me outrage, based on the trauma of other friends that had been molested as kids. Once i saw it from her point of view though, i was truly confused. A skill i have learnt, is to deal with those unavoidable memories that pop up at random. To date, i have managed to examine them, find the emotions needed to deal with them, either forgive the perpetrator, or myself or both as required. Once i have done that, i also create a memory of the solution that i have found. Now when that random memory pops up again, i activity recall the solution, and remind myself that i have already dealt with this, and don't need to go over it again. It can take time, but i fight the urge to fall into the pain of the memory, and just put it aside. It's simple... but not always easy. I hope you find your solutions.


Literally_-_Hitler

Like I stated in my post. At the time I enjoyed it. I thought I was doing something normal and that adults enjoyed so why shouldn't I. But later in life I struggled to form bonds with people. I had three times the sexual experience as my peers but struggled with intimacy. Girls my age were timid and shy but I was accustomed to forward and assertive. I hid the fact that I had lost my virginity because she asked me to. I ended up seeking out people who were damaged, just like you and I were and did. By the time I was 13 I had "officially"lost my virginity to a girl who passed herself off to anyone who would compliment her. What's important is to realize that we were victims. It doesn't matter whether or not we wanted it or not, we were children whose minds were still developing. And the person's who took advantage of us did damage to us. I'm glad you have found ways to redirect your emotions into more positive ways. But for me I've found that accepting what happened and acknowledging that it wasn't my fault has been the best path towards moving forward. The woman you met that was a nymphomaniac wasn't dealing with her trauma, she was adding onto it.


Blaziwolf

I’m glad your experiences haven’t traumatized you. I understand what your trying to do but I feel it’s a little inconsiderate to those who are struggling to accept the fact. People take sex differently. Our experiences will always change us. Best wishes.


Literally_-_Hitler

Wait, just so we are clear. You think it's inconsiderate of me to be able to express the way I feel over being molested as a child because of how it might make others feel?


Dad-man

I agree with almost every thing, apart from "... took advantage of us did damage to us" and "... wasn't dealing with her trauma, she was adding to it". This is exactly the sort of projected outrage i am taking about. With all due respect, your pain is not my pain. I don't wish to add to your anguish, so i won't go any further.


Literally_-_Hitler

I've given you an honest and quiet frankly objective take on what happened to me. I gave context for clarity and left emotion at the door. Yet you view this as "projected outrage". Thats a bit of an overreaction for pointing out what is clearly abuse.


Jazzeki

i support your view that unless the one it happened to thinks it's traumatic it isn't. ​ the counter to that is to remeber wether it was traumatic or not the person who had sex sex with a minor is still a criminal.


SN0WFAKER

I think it's more than that. People projecting trauma on a victim can actually cause damage. Of course it's a tricky balance because sometimes people might benefit from recognizing their coping strategies are related to a traumatic incident.


Dad-man

That is true. The law states an age. If you are over it, and have sex with someone under it, you are breaking the law. Even if you have been in an underage relationship, then you have a birthday that takes you over the age while they are still under it. But i am sure a judge would look at that and deal with it in a rational manner. I think there is a lot of outrage on behalf of others in the world, and not just on this issue. I respect a Social Justice Warrior, unless they are fighting for justice someone isn't looking for. There was an island near my city that had a car ferry to get to. Developers wanted to build a bridge so they could more easily exploit the holiday home potential. Problem was there was a group of black fellas that claimed it as tribal land, and didn't want it fucked up by rich, ignorant, white fellas. So a bunch of feminist (not that that's a problem, just that it provides context) SJW white fella women, got it in their heads, to help in the fight against the bridge. They came up with some bullshit story about how the island was sacred to the black fella women, because it was shaped like a womb. Well this was utter crap, because the tribe would have had no idea about that level of anatomy, and no idea of the shape of the island because they didn't have a map or a plane. Because of this bullshit argument, the fatcats were able to railroad the bridge through the local government, and it got built. A clear case of how someone else's outrage can get in the way of true justice.


Literally_-_Hitler

" A clear case of how someone else's outrage can get in the way of true justice. " More like a clear case of how you look down upon woman and black people. Merits to the case aside, the way you describe them is condescending and meant to degrading.


Erik912

Can we have a source for that wonderful story?


Dad-man

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindmarsh_Island_bridge_controversy


m4tt1111

Wow literal Hitler, this is some good insight, thanks for sharing


Icywarhammer500

r/rimjob_steve


druule10

To me abuse is abuse regardless of gender. It's so short sighted and pathetic to believe that men have no feelings. We feel but we don't get heard when we are hurt.


nyancatec

Every fucking media to men:Some random person got raped, got kidnapped, used as sex slave, barely fucking survived after kill attempts. Yeah no emotions. He probably even enjoyed that. Every fucking media to celebrity:OMG 😱😱😱 Billie Eilish just changed her hair and nail color. IT'S MUST-HAVE INFO! WHY NOBODY EVEN TALKS ABOUT THIS?! Every fucking media to women:Women sued man that she saw in a dream for raping her, wins. ​ What the fuck is wrong with people?


bravokiwi

MALE TEACHER BRUTALLY RAPES 15 YEAR OLD STUDENT Female teacher accused of inappropriate behaviour with underage student


InfernalSquad

Technically that last example is the courts. It’s judicial sexism, not media sexism. Which is worse.


Lukupp

It's called america


Literally_-_Hitler

That's not an excuse, that's a reason.


PathToExile

>It's called If that's how you are going to start a post (or sentence in real life) just shut the fuck up.


Lukupp

Ok my bad I guess. But why?


PathToExile

Have you ever been dumbfounded by someone telling you to "look it up" after a conspiracy theory rant, as though a simple Google search will confirm that bigfoot is actually Dick Cheney out of diguise? Those are the kinds of people that interject with "it's called ...". They don't have an opinion or insight, they just make sweeping statements that explain nothing.


meerCat232

I mean, that’s kind of the point of the comment isn’t it? Its a sweeping indictment, but it is true of the USA and many other countries and should be addressed. But the use of ‘it’s called’ is nothing to get your knickers in such a twist about though.


Idlertwo

A friend of mine was molested by a female family member in his pre-teens and he grew up with a *whole host of issues* that came from that, including taking a knife to his arm many, many times. Fuck people who think this doesnt go both ways.


_dogtown_

Trust me on this one. It goes both ways.


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omega_lol7320

I think I get what you're trying to say but you worded that SO badly


[deleted]

English ain't my first language. I'm sorry... Can you help?


[deleted]

I only forgive abuse if its *not* a doggo Edit: this is not my opinion


[deleted]

no like, what i meant was something along the lines of "its ok if a doggo abuses... ​ ​ ykw forget it... i tried.. ill delete the comment... thanks anyway strangers!


[deleted]

Hahaha no that's my bad! Yeah it's never the dogs fault, I'm with you.


SachiFaker

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but this level of stupidity pisses me off. Abuse is abuse regardless of the gender. The reason why most men doesn't speak about abuse is due to this way of thinking.


SoundDrill

\^


Low_Kaleidoscope_334

I hate the “men are stronger so they can fight back easier” statement just because men are stronger doesn’t mean we can easily fight back men and women should be the same strength IS a difference but just saying “men are stronger” is a blank statement IMO


SpaceHuskyZero

It also completely undermines women by saying they're all weak.


AnxiousSon

Also, this applies in domestic violence situations as well, but just saying "men are stronger" doesn't matter when you can't fight back if a woman happens to be being aggressive because if the cops get called and there's so much as a mark on her YOUR the one going to jail bub. Men can get caught between a rock and a hard place sometimes.


anoelr1963

Women living with the threat of an aggressive man overpowering her is a real fear.


SpaceHuskyZero

I didn't say it wasn't incase you misunderstood.


anoelr1963

I understand...but yeah...men do get abused by women...having said that, physical domination is an advantage for sick men that attack vulnerable women and children.


SpaceHuskyZero

Definitely, it's a grotesk way to treat someone. I can't imagine what it must be like for someone you love a trust to be the cause of so much harm.


superventurebros

Not to mention you slug the would be rapist and she reports you for assault.


toxcrusadr

The entire discussion seems to have also left out the possibility of a man - or a boy - being raped by a man (or men). Plenty of situations where they could not fight back.


Low_Kaleidoscope_334

Yes, no one says that a rape can only happen with more than one person groups of people can do it in that case the person can’t even fight back


LucyRiversinker

We are not even talking about men in this case. It’s boys.


Low_Kaleidoscope_334

Men and boys both boys ARE more prone to it atleast men can fight back boys are young and weak


anoelr1963

Well, many more dead raped women and children because male attackers can physically overpower them. Fear of death while being raped and forced to do what your rapist forces you to do is horribly devastating... even if the victim survives the trauma.


toxcrusadr

Not sure why you were downvoted, seems reasonable to me.


AloneAddiction

Not to downplay the horrific trauma women have to go through, not only the aftermath of the rape but the idea that people won't believe them. Men will almost certainly be *laughed at* if they're the victims of sexual assault. *"Man, you let her rape you? Why didn't you just beat her up?"* *"Man, she was hot! I'd have let her fuck me any day! Whats wrong with you!!"* Ignorant people have no idea about coercive sexual assault against men. This isn't to downplay rapes against women. Trauma affects everyone and it's not always about the *physical* damage sustained.


halsoy

Can anecdotaly confirm. I've been approached by a woman just seating herself on my person, grabbing my crotch and simply state that "we are going to fuck". I've had my penis grabbed and jerked while at work, I've had women undress and masturbate next to me assuming I'm just cool with it and various other... Let's call it unwanted gestures and actions. Try and tell this to ANYONE in a serious manner and you get laughed at or simply prompted "so... You fucked her, right?" This includes one actual LEO. If I had done any of this to or in front of a woman I'd face jail time.


[deleted]

I had a similar experience at school and university, but not so hard. For some unknown reason, women really like me. At school there were girls, who fell next to me, to touch me by scrotum. One was especially inadequate, that every time she saw me, she made a jab in scrotum. - I complained to teachers about inappropriate behavior, but no one reacted, just laughed at me. For some reason, at university, rich girls surrounded me with attention, which made athletes very angry, because wanted to meet them. Most of them were pleasant to talk, and they be not spoiled as they seemed. But others were frankly inadequate. Some just made sharp jabs in abdomen, to touch my muscles. Others openly said, that they wanted me to fuck them. In univer I had a small company, and even one girl from that company also said that she wanted me. As an adult, I had a severe nervous breakdown, and was in psychological help service. I was then 20. And on therapy, a woman of about 40-55 years came up to me and bluntly said, that since it was so bad for me to live in my house, she wants that I move in with her house. She constantly ambiguously hinted, that she wanted sex with me. When I said, that I would not move in with her, she became very angry and left therapy. And now imagine reversible situation, that I am a woman, and they are men - They are finished. Those situations did not bring me any psychological trauma and I did not attach much importance to that behavior at all. But it were definitely absolutely unpleasant.


SpaceHuskyZero

And the thing is, statements like the second quote aren't even exclusive to men at all. In my experience women have always been just as talkative about how sexually attracted they to another person.


KaizokuRammer

This person is delusional


Icywarhammer500

I don’t even know what to say and usually I can say a lot


KaizokuRammer

Yeah the messed up part is that a lot of people in society today would agree with this person’s argument.


Icywarhammer500

“It’s ok because what you did doesn’t affect them that much in one way” Like wtaf Robbing Walmart is still stealing Raping a man is still raping someone


Neuuanfang

if you are a man and get raped, there are propably nearly zero people that take you seriously


patatosAreCool

If you are a man and get raped is what I think you meant Hopefully


Neuuanfang

i didnt sleep that much last night


patatosAreCool

And three people downvoted you


okami6663

Comparing one crime to another... IT'S STILL A FUCKING CRIME. There is no reason to give different sentences for the same crime.


Jaeger010

Comes from the view that women are naturally less dangerous or threatening than men. Because of that view, people like this think "why would you be traumatised when a woman hurt you? She's just a woman!" As if women have never done horrible, heinous, disgusting things. Especially to children. This view is also not helped by the fact that in a lot of places, it's believed that it is physically and legally impossible for a woman to rape someone because she cannot penetrate. The definition of rape needs to be widened.


Call_me_Spud

I've always believed a pedo is a pedo, regardless of gender, age etc. And a victim is a victim, they need help, support and care.


YoMommaHere

This is bullshit. Period.


ThatOneDrugAddict

Seeing that person’s comment history.... this isn’t the only stupid crap he’s said


Icywarhammer500

She apparently


Lilith_Kea

"Men can get stronger and fight the rapist back" "Ight we got this, just lemme grow up to 18 yo so I can kick your ass before you rape me"


toxcrusadr

Yeah well for next time though. /s


Velpex123

Are we gonna talk about how she said men don’t have high suicide rates? This is Reddit, if your gonna say something make sure that it’s right or go fuck yourself


MrLifeguard71

As a male who has been on the receiving end of a lot of abuse. I never feel like I can say a thing. Well I guess except for right now with everyone here. People always expect me to be fine because that is the mask I have created. I make everything into a joke and try to spin things as positively as I can. However after awhile all the crap just... Well it just really screws with you. While in college, I was raped by a woman whom i barely knew (met her that night). I was not a party goer, but I went because a friend of mine wanted to go and he didn't want to go alone. Well at the party I started talking to this girl and she brought me a drink (in a red solo cup) I drank it to be polite (I also do not drink, I don't really enjoy alcohol) but for whatever reason I drank it. Then everything is a blur after that. And Next thing I knew I woke up next to her naked. No clue what had happened just a huge feeling of fear and panic. I quickly found my things and left. Its been years since then and I still get shivers when I think about that night. I have not told any of my friends because I fear they will not understand. So instead I ignore it and pretend that it didn't happen. But recently I have faced another example of how cruel people can be, and this one is arguably worse. My friend group has been the same circle of people for 12 years. Well my ex from high school/freshman year of college tried to join the group (she was friends with some of the guys girlfriends). I played it cool even though seeing her was not easy for me. Back my freshman year I found put she cheated on me and broke things off. Well what she didn't know is that I had bought her a ring thinking I was going to propose. So when she rejoined the group I was in a huge state of internal conflict, all the old feelings started to resurface. Well then she tried to get me trown out of thr group and stated it was either me or her. Luckily my friends said uhhh him lol. After that she left for 2 years. Then... She came back. But this time she played a different strategy. She joined the group and immediately came to me to appologize for all her drama. All those feelings came back up and I still not wanting to cause a rift in the group, forgave her. Boy was that a mistake. She spent a year in the group. She even moved in with my friend Chris and his wife. Well during this year with covid and everything I have not seen everyone as much as I used too. I live an hour away so it was hard to hang out even before the pandemic. Well she made her move and this time she was smart about it. She has effectivly alienated me from all of my "friends". She has made the bold claim to all of them that I raped her. So all of my friend one by one stopped talking to me until finally one of them confronted me and started yelling at me about how I'm going to hell and so on. He demanded that if I was innocent I would give him proof that I did not do it. And well the only way I can think to prove I didn't was to have an alibi. So I asked him to tell me when it happened and he couldn't. He just said that it would not matter even if I had an alibi. So just like that I lost everyone important to me. She had cut me out of the friend group with one lie. And yet I put on a smile every day when I see family or am at work. Because it is what is expected of me. Sorry for the long rant. I have had it on my mind for some time and this just happens that you all are my vent. It just baffles me how people can be so heartless and manipulative. It makes it really hard for me to trust people. You never know what they truly think..


CrashDisaster

Holy fuck. This is awful. I'm so sorry. I hope you find actual friends because those people truly don't seem to be that. Have you been able to find a therapist that can help you with all of this? It's not a burden you need to carry all alone.


MrLifeguard71

Well with all of covid I have been hesitant to get a therapist. But luckily my sister and brother have been very supportive and helpful during this whole situation. My point of sharing was: one to get it off my chest and two: to show how crazy it is for each person. As someone who has been taken advantage of and somwone who has been falsely accused it amazes me. I did not tell anyone about it when it happened to me, I felt that nobody would believe me. And for her. She accused me and suddenly I'm the worst person alive and nothing I say will change thier minds. But thanks for checking on me :) it means a lot :D


CrashDisaster

I'm glad to hear your brother and sister have been there for you. Phew. Venting is needed sometimes for sure. Just know that strangers on the internet are rooting for you.


toxcrusadr

She sounds like some kind of a psychopath. I would not be surprised if she had been raped at some point and this is her way of getting revenge against at least one man. Who knows, I shouldn't even be speculating. But with friends like that, who will just stop talking to you without telling you why, except for one who yells at you and insists you're lying rather than hearing your side, who needs enemies? You need to find a higher class of friends.


nyancatec

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender\_differences\_in\_suicide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide) Literally 1st article that appeared after searching average suicide rate. So "crippling depression, suicide rates or dating issues" is out of the window. Everyone can take easy way out. And It's really sexism. Everyone after rape has no idea what to do, Gender doesn't matter. "Men can get stronger and fight rapist back, women can't". Hahaha yes because boys equals always strong girls equals weak and terrified of everything haha yes. Stereotypes Am I right? I'm 16 y/o male so It means I can kill a fucking elephant with bare fists haha. No, It's not how that works. Most of the times there are not so many diffrences because of gender. Boys CAN be weak and scared, and Girls CAN have six pack and Do some Dopamine shit like Jumping out of the plane. ​ Jesus It actually hurt my mind that I was writing those quotes.


msannethropik

(Similar logic) That mother who murdered her children by starving them and drowning them doesn’t deserve as much hate as the abusive father who snapped one day and shot the entire family. The damage isn’t as bad.


nyancatec

(I may get downvoted but) Even If we don't look at law and the charges, Father actually did it \*slightly\* better since if it is headshot they didn't feel pain (or most likely), meanwhile drowning is something much cruel since you feel that air is not getting in and water starts coming, and after some time with no air, you feel that death is unavoidable.


Flame_Phoenix7

Is it slightly though? Imo It's more than that, i would prefer to get headshot much more than drown. I once got a bit of water in my lungs and it already wasn't fun, can't imagine how bad it is to drown Edit: Apparently it takes around 40 seconds for an adult to drown, i'm not a firearm expert but sure enough getting a headshot is faster


BananeVolante

That's murder in both cases, and I don't think the mother drowning had a special intent to make them suffer more than shooting at them, even if it may be the case in the end. I don't think it's worth having a debate on how a murder can be done more kindly


PsycheTester

People can actually get more punishment if the murder was extremely cruel


BananeVolante

The intention is not to make them suffer in any of these cases, it's to end their lives. I do agree that if you torture or beat somebody and let them bleed to death, it is far more cruel (and also completely intentional) but that's not really the same situation as originally described


Retro_game_kid

You're right but you shouldn't say it


TwoSwordSamurai

OC just wanted to do his teacher.


iWoopwoop921

Everyone wants Equality for both men and women, yet somehow nothing is Equally given no matter the issues.


Bruteboii

As a male who was sexually assaulted on his bus back from school at the age of 15, this sickens me. At the time I felt that if I said anything I wouldn't have been taken seriously, that I'd be just another teen making some noise (my area had a bad reputation of troublesome and abusive school kids, especially on public transport). Back in the day my bus didn't have cameras, and it was always a later ride home, too, so fewer passengers. This wasnt a girl my age either, it was a woman much older than me (mid to late 40s), not somebody I'd have considered attractive. I was very much an introvert, and didn't like to stand out, which is why I would always take the back of the bus, rather than be at the front (that and for some reason being at the back always seemed to make my travel sickness more manageable, but that's a weird me thing I reckon). This woman had complete confidence in herself, which I think was one of the things that terrified me, and was very quick to assume I was a fit young man and an active school football player (UK), and I guess figured that was enough reason to massage my thighs and other local body parts. She seemed to enjoy the power, and then it got worse when she mocked me for my younger and "cute" equipment (which has taken me years to accept as average and be comfortable with). I had no voice, it just left me. I just turned my face to the window, and tried to get through it. She was only on the bus for about 12 minutes of my 30 minute journey, but in that time she managed to decide to sit with me, massage my thighs, stroke my manhood, ridicule my size with a smile on her face, and leave. I felt sick all the time, but I had younger siblings to take care of at home, so I had to put on a face and bare it. Only when everybody was in bed could I try to quietly break down under my sheets. About a month after all this I finally cried at home, and my mother managed to convince me to tell her everything, that speaking up didn't make me weak or less of a man. We got the police involved. They had somebody follow me on my bus for a couple of weeks, but I never saw her again. It went nowhere. I remember my mum telling me that there wasn''t any leads. The driver recognised the description but she wasn't all too regular. After a few suspects I confirmed were the wrong person the ended the investigation, and that's all I really remember. After a couple of weeks off from school, I managed to get up and say I would continue school, but we bought a bike and I'd the 5 miles home. I taught myself to be more vocal, and use my deeper booming voice. I also taught myself and my younger sister to ask people to maintain distance and a personal space. I did whatever I could to make sure nobody would touch me again, and also to not LOOK like somebody could ever feel they could touch me again. I'm all for equal rights, and I'm well aware that female rape victims far outweighs the male ones, but, it happens. This male stigma is killing people every year. "Men aren't victims because they're stronger, and they can enjoy it". Not all men are "strong", and on top of that, women aren't inherently "weak". Just because a penis it touched doesn't mean that man enjoys it. On top of THAT, if I'm not strong then I'm not "manly"? Jesus Christ, I hate all this talk. Look, all I wanna end on is if a person touches/molests/harrases another person without consent, regardless of gender, then it is assault. Do not dissect the charge by messing about with age, gender, or any of that shit. I sincerely wish all the best to other victims of abuse, and especially to those who felt they couldn't speak up. There's always somebody who will want to listen.


tjclark1107

Im so sorry you had to experience that. Sadly I don't know if we will ever truly know if men are raped or assaulted less than women because of the stigma and disbelief that is involved when men do come forward. Im happy your mom supported you and worked to help you through it. I hate that there are people of all ages going through something so difficult with no support and/or fear to report it or talk aboit it due to the bullshit victim blaming and acting as if men cant be assaulted. I wish you all the best.


PlayBud101

Sexism is sexism, even if it favors females


Nickthedick3

Wow. That person is dumb as fuck.


fimoses

There are countries where the suicide rate is 76% men but people still want to say that men suffer less


toxcrusadr

Wait three quarters of a country committed suicide? In one year or what? Which country?!


Levi_FtM

> male victims don't have crippling depression, high suicide rates or datinf issues What the actual fuck? *70%* of suicides are men. [Seventy fucking percent](https://www.verywellmind.com/men-and-suicide-2328492) of suicides are men, not women. This dude knows nothing.


Gamerbrineofficial

what sucks is that men statistically kill themselves more often. The male suicide rate is higher.


eeyoremarie

I absolutely agree. Rape doesn't become sex just because the perpetrator is a woman.


NarcoCeliac

So women who groom children to be their personal mindless fuck toy so they can sell them for drugs are what? Entrepreneurs?


bacontime2

I wonder if they ever understand that they are just about the stupidest motherfucker to exist in their area


gokaigreen19

did they just compare people getting raped to walmart getting robbed?


Icywarhammer500

Yes


Syr_Vien

Just out of curiosity, do you play Warhammer 40K/AOS or is that just part of the name?


Icywarhammer500

No my name is based off skyrim


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Icywarhammer500

She apparently


SunshineSpite

So anyway K*ll all rapists and pedos. This is basically what people fight against for female victims saying "boys don't get it as bad." is the same as "well she deserved it." Men's rights is a part of feminism they just have a twisted view on shit.


Erik912

*what* *and how did 9 people understand what you wrote?*


SunshineSpite

Because its not hard to understand what I wrote


sikandarnirmalsingh

Smh. Yes. Women r just as capable of these crimes as men. Men don’t report it as much.


[deleted]

I guess, people think ,it’s about physiology. They say, that a men's penis is very easy to lift, and men always want sex, so rape a woman is not a problem. And if a woman wants to rape a man, he can refuse, because penis will not rise.


sikandarnirmalsingh

Also, they feel that because men r dominant, they are never the victim. They are also less likely to speak up because of this. Society still cannot fathom that women are capable of these crimes. Another ‘reasoning’ is that it may appear less obvious for some to think of a woman being able to rape a man because they can’t just ‘whip it out’. They r still just as capable of rape. https://www.google.com/search?q=woman+rapes+man&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=vni&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj96eGj2e7vAhXXFFkFHSrwAo8Q_AUIEygA&biw=414&bih=719&dpr=3 https://www.google.com/search?q=men+less+likely+to+report+rape&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=niv&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjFkdS12e7vAhXxFFkFHUGwBzMQ_AUIEygA&biw=414&bih=719&dpr=3 We live in a society where double standards rule. Women want feminism to rule, yet many still willingly portray themselves as sex objects and fuel a sex obsessed society. Men n women r able to most things equally, and sadly, those things bad as well as good. Women are just as devious as men. They are just as flawed as men. No sex/gender/whatever is above the other.


Erik912

I don't like these overgeneralizations. Yeah, no, maybe they don't report it as much, maybe they do. Have you got any data about this or is it completely based on your ass?


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Erik912

That's a lot of hate you have against an internet stranger.. are you okay?


HomemadePsychologist

Really tho i thought i was in a league match for a sec


Erik912

lmao is this still the norm?


HomemadePsychologist

It's even worse than that actually. I haven't played in months and my life is a whole lot happier lol


Lukupp

Mommy why do I have to eat my greens? So you can grow stronger and fight back the female rapists!


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Argument number 1. Seriously. xD


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Icywarhammer500

Only if it was me who did it I believe


leavethegherkinsin

"Male victims don't have crippling depression, high suicide rates, or dating issues". What in the fuck are you talking about!? Ignorant waste of skin.


Raikou384

Imagine making pedophilia have a better face if you are a woman 🙃


_dogtown_

I got “overly sexualized” let’s say, at a really young age by adults of both genders. I sorta joked about when it was a woman because “score!” Right? But my whole adult life has been a mess because of it. It seeped into every facet of my life and I’m only just getting a hold of it and I’m 50. Fuck people like this. Truly.


tjclark1107

Im really sorry you had to go through that. I hope you have been able to fimd peace and any help you may have needed.


_dogtown_

Thanks. Well my first marriage wasn’t a success but I found someone stable enough that I could have time to sort my own demons out so I married her. Plus medication. And I quit drinking to numb the pain. So, yeah, I’m feeling pretty content for the first time in a couple decades.


tjclark1107

Im so glad your doing better. I wish you all the best and am rooting you on in your journey.


_dogtown_

That is honestly and truly appreciated. Take care and stay healthy!


ThanksDarksouls3

This bitch is living in the early 1900's


THEKITKAT21

She does prefer men over women as you can see if you check her profile since she hates being a women


Clemintinetide

This is sexist towards woman too. Like “yeah, women are weak both physically and emotionally and just can’t deal with trauma the way MEN can, also a WOMAN can’t be a horrible abuser to a strong MAN” sir stooooop


Thundrstruck

Can someone sum this up to something akin to normal. I read it 4 times and my mind cannot wrap around the point its trying to make


AloneAddiction

*"Men don't have feelings, so if they're raped they can just walk it off."* Yes, it's as horrifically sexist and ignorant as it sounds. My guess is she's been raised to believe men are supposed to act in a "certain" way and has never bothered to learn any different.


Thundrstruck

Monstrous. Ty


Icywarhammer500

You can’t because she’s delusional


Thundrstruck

Gotcha! TY


Cryovat321

It's actually sexist towards woman. Basically saying because men are better at dealing with shit that happened to them than woman the morality of raping a boy vs raping a girl is different. It's fucked up on so many levels.


Legit_GoldYT

Okay the problem here is that a lot of woman want genders to be even then they pull a stunt like this trying to say why one deserves more than the other. I mean a lot of women are chill and don't do stuff like this but it annoys me when someone like this says this shit and doesn't know wtf there talking about.


halfofftheprice

I’ve heard several times throughout high school and college that if two people are intoxicated and have sex that the male can be charged with rape “because of the penetration” (that is a direct quote ive heard from teachers and administrators). Following that logic, wouldn’t this person have a point? If we are setting a legal precedent that rape is defined differently for males vs females, isn’t it logical to draw the conclusion that it can effect one sex differently than the other? Edit: or were those teachers/admins wrong to use that phrasing? The legal precedent would still remain though


PamIllise

Saddly in many places rape legally is still defined as forceful penetration which is pretty dumb. Rape is rape regardless of the gender and how the raping occurred


PreOpTransCentaur

The legal precedent in the US and UK is more or less that women can't rape men because of the definitions used to determine what qualifies as rape. We all have a very long way to go in removing the double standard surrounding sex crimes, and it needs to start with the laws.


Firestar_

Sadly, rule 1 applies to everybody.


Icywarhammer500

It would have been taken down if that was true.


Firestar_

*It was a " sadly you have to censor their name. "*


Icywarhammer500

Ohhhh


poisontongue

"don't have yada yada..." Not only is that false, but the presumption is despicable.


Twich8

I agree that person is crazy, but women do have have a higher depression rate then men.


Icywarhammer500

I assumed a higher suicide rate meant higher depression rate but I guess not. Just worse depression in less people


Aubear11885

Also rates of diagnoses are higher, men typically go undiagnosed with just about everything in the US. It’s not manly to see your doctor or talk about your feelings


NV_reddit

the gendered suicide statistic is pretty interesting in a morbid way- men kill themselves more often than women, but women have been shown to attempt more. the most prevelant theory (and the one i believe myself) is that men are pressured for more violent methods by societal expectations, leading to use of more lethal methods. meanwhile, those more lethal methods are less likely to be used by women due to societal expactations for them encouranging looks (most lethal methods will seriously affect your looks) and more nonviolence. as such, the suicide tool of choice for men can tend to be something like a gun, while for women it can tend to be more like pills. ​ TLDR men commit suicide more, but women attempt more.


Finn_3000

Partially agree. I personally think that through media and pop culture men have been pushed away from using methods such as pills or cutting their wrists, because they are constantly being portrayed as being feminine ways of suicide. An important destinction to make in male suicides is also the social standing of a man. Men usually tend to go with guns (in the US) or hanging (in places without guns) IF they are blue collar workers. While white collar workers often times go with drugs, asphyxiation or jumping.


Aetas800

Take out the societal expectations part and you’re on the money: men tend to use more violent ways of attempting suicide and women tend to use more “passive” ways of attempting suicide.


NV_reddit

Considering societal conditioning is incredibly real, I dont think I will.


Winder_Operator

So since it's not hard to follow comments trails, I'm quite sure the account is b8.


tskank69

I’m gonna say I agree but for a different reason. At the rate I’m going, I’m gonna die a virgin, so if I get to have sex I can die happy. Edit: y am I getting downvoted? I’m just saying that if I got “raped” by a woman (which is impossible cuz rape implies unwillingness, when I would be 100% willing) I’d be fine with it.


HitmanSeal

If we let rapists run free in our society, we will all be much happier /s


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Icywarhammer500

Is this sarcastic?


Salty_Atmosphere1695

No


Icywarhammer500

You’re so fucking stupid that I can’t even explain it at a level you could possibly understand


Salty_Atmosphere1695

Oh you told me!


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You’re a degenerate ‘person’ for believing that lmfao