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10, June, 2021, Taiwan, a conveyor belt in a coal power plant caught on fire and burned down.

10, June, 2021, Taiwan, a conveyor belt in a coal power plant caught on fire and burned down.

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Jake454545

I'm currently working with some welders under a conveyer belt structure just like this one. It's about 40 meters up and the use a gouger to cut the ibeams we are replacing off. It shoots sparks into the area where the coal is. They've started fires so many times I've had to stop them so we can water down the area. This conveyer leads to the stockpile of coal in a distance so it is very important the flames are stopped by presoaking multiple times a day. I'm greatful to have stumbled on this video, I'm most definitely going to show these welders this so they can quit trying to rush everything.


DanOneMillion

That is unbelievably sloppy. Just note with coal that putting it out isn’t the end of it. It’s incredibly good at holding heat so you want to hang around for a good while to make sure it doesn’t go up later.


Jake454545

Yeah for sure, they soak everything good in the morning then right before we leave or see fit. Idc I stop them as soon as I feel fit. And I'm not even the safety guy.


fullstack-crypto

On work sites, everyone should be the safety guy. You're doing good work


DanielZokho

I worked for a contractor that did the odd maintenance job here and there. Amongst said jobs were fixing some sheds inside a relatively large fuel reserve area (dug-down fuel tanks holding around 3 million liters of gasoline), another job was replacing all the windows of a large airplane-hangar inside the area of a commercial airport. In both instances we had to notify a security personnel about if we were about to use a grinder/torch, so that they could give us the go ahead or not, as well as having some random guy following us with a fire extinguisher... It didn't really bother us but basically the reasons for the precautions boiled down to the fact that a small spark could cost many... maaaany lifes. Not to mention because the cost behind a preventable accident would be astronomical. Oh and also, if we didn't comply, the consequences were simple and immediate, we'd have to fuck the fuck off the area and lose the contract as well as any other potential future contracts with those companies (not sure about legal consequences but I'm sure there would have been some). So yeah, any way you look at it, following these safety standards are worth it.


redpandarox

Glad that something good can come out of this.


Jake454545

I know, we don't need anything like this at all.


mr_bots

They didn’t include cleaning the surrounding area thoroughly and placing fire blankets between the work and any remaining flammables, including the rubber belt itself on the hot work permit?


Jake454545

That's crazy


mr_bots

Worked at a mine in the US (not coal) with miles of conveyor belts both underground and in surface and it was standard practice.


Jake454545

Yeah the material is abundant under the belts here


carp_boy

It's acting as if there was some sort of fuel around.


breathing_normally

What idiots would use the flammable coal anyway


thenewyorkgod

They shoulda cleaned it first


AndrewWaldron

Clean Coal is the best coal. We'll all be using it on our cars before long.


XythesBwuaghl

Ah yes, Taiwan’s “clean coal” alternatives to “conventional dirty coal”


oldaccountgotnuked

Dr. Nick probably


redpandarox

It’s burning like coal!


icestation-gem

And the global semi conductor shortage worsens


kaishenlong

For the second time in two days.


neb_87

What happened first?


kaishenlong

Polysilicon plant in China [blew up.](https://www.pv-magazine.com/2021/06/09/silicon-fab-explosion-in-xinjiang-threatens-further-poly-shortage/)


BlueCreek_

I was hoping for a massive explosion video on that link


hillty

Inflammable means flamabble? What a country!


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butterscotchbagel

Noninflammable


giraffesneedhelmets

Thank God we have a quack!


lo_fi_ho

They rollin it..


Tavoprezzz

If it’s a conveyor, it was likely rubber. Rubber can catch fire fast. I work at a steel shredder that uses rubber conveyors so I know a little but about them.


Nulax271

It’s usually coal dust that ignites first, that ignites the coal on the belt and then the actual belt.


skapade

Or coal.


Tavoprezzz

Or coal and rubber…. Either way someone is getting their ass chewed out after this


kentacova

Well that would be the conveyor belt, Ans I think he’ll be out on sick leave for awhile.


ch1llboy

Sure went up a level when it got more oxygen!


Moose_And_Squirrel

Cursed dinosaurs!


Former-Pop-3859

Coal dust maybe?


loki444

It's actually quite easy to have a fire start on a belt conveyor. As the belt runs down the length of the conveyor, it is assisted by small rollers along the walls that help keep the belt raised up on the sides of the conveyor. This helps to keep the product riding along a belt that sort of sags in the middle of the belt. Think high along the sides, and lower in the middle of the belt. The fire can be caused by a number of different things, such as: high bearing temps on the ends, the drum rollers being misaligned, which causes the belt to run crooked (causes more friction on the belt), product that has fallen off the belt along the sides building up and being constantly rubbed by the passing belt, or product built up underneath the bottom portion of the belt just before the drums possibly caused by the flippers at the drum not throwing product back up on top of the belt as it goes around the drum. This is sad to see because there will be a pretty high cost to replace the structural supports and the conveyor itself. Thankfully, it looked like nobody was hurt.


manicbassman

doesn't there also need to be a dust suppression spray system?


shaun__shaun

It depends on what kind of coal you are using. Some coal comes out of the mine like baby powder and other kinds are big rocks that need to be crushed.


stud__kickass

I work with ships, and at least at the coal pier they have a spray system. I always see them running. Dunno if that applies to power plants but i'd assume so


unlikelycheese

They typically only spray water for dust suppression at transfer points. Coal laying flat on a belt does not create much dust.


baronvonhawkeye

At least in the US, there is usually an automatically actuated water deluge fire suppression system.


pinkfloydfan69

I’ve worked with a lot of conveyer belts and static can be a huge problem as well. You’ll see tiny copper tinsel on some just to keep the product and the conveyer belt at the same potential.


Myrtle_magnificent

Copper tinsel? Like fine little bits of copper added to the product? Does that get removed at the other end or just shipped off/burned when the coal is burned? I'm so fascinated!


pinkfloydfan69

Like a tinsel you’d put on your Xmas tree, it usually is wrapped around a grounded piece of metal then just hangs down and brushes across the moving conveyer so any static is discharged to ground.


Myrtle_magnificent

Thank you for answering! That makes more sense than what I was imagining.


Funkit

I always used carbon impregnated neoprene on stuff like that. Static can cause a lot of dangerous problems.


realityChemist

Very true. For another example, see the disaster at Imperial Sugar: https://youtu.be/Jg7mLSG-Yws


loki444

Oh, I have seen that video before as the example for dust explosions. Super dangerous. The second explosion is usually the worst one because the first explosion shakes dust into the air causing a potential combustible cloud. When the second explosion ignites that combustible cloud, the explosion is much more intense than the first. Thanks for sharing your example. That is a very good example for people to know about.


theduckisdead64

Good points all around. When I worked at a coal power plant one of the most likely sources for a fire like this was a non-crushable component (like bolts) in the coal that went through the crusher. Would come out as a hot nugget and smolder on the coal bed. There were precautions in place to prevent the metal pieces from entering the crusher, as well as fire protection on the belts, but nothing is perfect. Sometimes the bolt came from within the crusher...


loki444

Thanks! Yeah, metals getting through and heating up would definitely be a major problem. I work in a Canola seed crushing plant and we have magnets at key points to help take foreign metals out of the process. Metals like stainless steel though prove to be a big problem because they are not magnetic. Every once in a while a stainless steel bolt will end up in a pellet mill, which looks really cool upon inspection, but is actually very hard on equipment. Thanks very much for sharing!


buckybadder

This is an especially big problem in coal mining, where the belt fire is underground in a confined space, presenting a serious challenge for firefighters. It's heavily studied by the Office for Mine Safety and Health, within NIOSH.


DemonicSpud2

Yea, it's why there are different trip procedures for high CO levels. With high levels of gasses like carbon monoxide all belts will stop. However high levels of CO indicate a belt fire, so you only want to drop sequence to the inbye belts. That way no more coal is added and the belt on fire doesn't just stop and burn.


_-Anima-_

iirc isn't there like a huge underground fire still ongoing for the last like 10 years in the Midwest? I remember reading a story about it a while back. But essentially the story said that the fire had spread too far into too many veins and they couldn't fight the fire so they evacuated the mines and sealed the shut and shut down the local town


gn6

What’s your line of work, out of interest?


Unstopapple

I bet it conveys a sense of pride and satisfaction.


C0RVUS99

I'm sure he's proud to put on that belt every day


ralusek

I belt it does, too.


loki444

I am a power engineer that works in a Canola crushing plant. I used to be a lead operator in our crushing plant, but now I work in our Biodiesel plant. Did you know that you can make Biodiesel from canola or oil seeds? Very cool process!


realityChemist

Probably chemical or mechanical engineering (my ChemE undergrad is where I learned about this)


gn6

Yeah I’m currently a ChemE undergrad, thought this was interesting.


Culehand

I used to work at a grain elevator. One guy had the job 8 hours a day 5 days a week to grease bearings.


loki444

Grain elevators are cool! I believe that. We have some pretty stringent lube lists to complete each day, shift, or timed occurrence. Anyone who has seen a heated bearing in a dusty environment knows that is bad news and needs to get fixed ASAP.


Penta-Dunk

Wow, TIL. Thanks for the fact


loki444

You are very welcome. I'm happy I can contribute to helping people learn. I love teaching people new things! :)


CipherCommando

For my time zone this happened tomorrow


verticalburtvert

You're living in the past, man.


CipherCommando

Is there anything that you want un done from yesterday


verticalburtvert

If I have to relive it? No.


CipherCommando

No. I fix it for you for the low price of 111.11


verticalburtvert

That's a lotta caps.


niftygull

His comment had 2 capitals yours irks me


braintrustinc

yeah well my comment has taipei, ottawa, brasilia, london, canberra, lusaka, and maputo


IsaacEiland-Hall

So I assume your comment has all the capitols as well?


Govt-Issue-SexRobot

He’s streets behind


WolfeBane84

Dang Taiwanese time travelers....


nogaesallowed

You gotta warn them dude!


lukesaskier

Please provide tomorrows lottery numbers as well!


funkysmel

We are in a time loop. You'll never get to spend the winnings .


redpandarox

Should’ve specified it’s local time.


FKFnz

American continent-dwellers could just accept they're way behind the rest of the world.


mavantix

Yes we are, in many ways more than time.


CipherCommando

I could tell.


Ferocetis

Interesting.jpeg


BabesCallMeBlastoise

Look at that nice clean coal


pikime

Is that you Sco Mo?


BergaGaming

Green coal Once the grass grows back


jmd_akbar

Scumo, more likely...


maxman162

"That's a clean burning hell, I'll tell you hwat."


8_Ohm_Woofer

POLYCILICOAL. THE NEW SILICOAL...


Pyrhan

It's funny to look at that bellowing smoke, and think "that's what the coal powerplant would be burning on a normal day. It's just happening outside of the boiler this time". So, for the environment, in terms of CO2 emissions, this massive fire is probably a *net positive*, since it will result in a days- or months-long shutdown of a plant that burns this stuff in its normal operation. (Although soot, ashes and sulfur dioxides aren't being captured when it burns like this.)


lemay1

Coal burns alittle lighter than that, I'm not saying its cleaner but the darker smoke is most likely from the thick rubber conveyor belt burning. As a side note I work at a coal mine and thanks to increased natural gas prices we just upped production 100k+ tons a month. Edit. I'm not saying coal is clean or good, just stating what I know.


shaun__shaun

Lots of power plants have multiple conveyor belts, so they can keep running when one fails. So the fire probably just dumped lots of unfiltered smoke into the sky and nothing else.


Pyrhan

Ah. Well, that sucks then.


crickypop

YEs but you are assuming the demand is non existent. If this coal plants shuts down, other plants would work for longer periods/ burn more coal to generate the power not being supplied by this plant. Unless they could somehow make new plants using renewables within months. In no way is this a net positive for the enviroment.


king_of_retardland

Your last sentence vs the rest of your comment.. hmmm


NateTheGreat68

It's not contradictory - my understanding is that the vast majority of plants have mitigations for particulate (fly ash), sulfur dioxide, and nitrogen oxides, but carbon capture is still pretty uncommon. I've done a few quick searches for percentages of plants with the various types of emissions controls to back that up, but if the numbers are readily available I'm not seeing them.


zedsterthemyuu

So Taiwan used to be on nuclear power for a while, but then some politicians ran a campaign on how unsafe that was, managed to scare the hell out of the general public, and got them switched back to coal. Ever since then, the air quality has significantly gone down, the power plant often can't provide enough power, which results in many rolling outages and brown outs for power use rationing. And now this happens... good luck to them...


godca_grema

Yeah, but the politicians got handsomely paid by the coal companies, so it's all good.


redpandarox

Additional facts for those who haven’t been following Taiwan news: they’ve already had two power shortages earlier this year.


BlahBlahBlankSheep

Sounds like California.


Gary_the_metrosexual

And Germany


Ferocetis

"There is coal under our Lebenraum lmao." - some Fritz


Hyperi0us

difference here is that California is now overproducing power during the day due to the metric fuckton of solar they've installed in the past decade. If they can build storage to capture that overproduction rather than exporting it out of state, they'll be completely carbon neutral by 2025.


Petrarch1603

wasn't that in the aftermath of the fukushima disaster?


Impulsive_Wisdom

"Welp. Time to update the sign..."


249ba36000029bbe9749

https://i.imgur.com/ZaTebe4.mp4


St34m9unk

Guys I'm scared of nuclear let's keep playing with the fire rocks


suchdownvotes

underrated comment


confirmd_am_engineer

I've seen this happen once before at an old coal-fired plant I worked at. In that case we were burning PRB (powder river basin) coal, which is notorious for being self-combusting when left in contact with air. The plant got ~90% of its fuel via rail, and utilized [car dumpers like this one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbJl_Astx_w) to load the fuel onto a belt below ground. As you can imagine, some fuel makes its way under the belt over time, and that began to smolder. Eventually the fire made its way into the fuel being loaded, and was rolled the full half mile from the dumper house to the stacker house, lighting the whole belt up. Luckily we didn't have the structure fail like these guys did.


Buzumab

Taiwan seems to be having a lot of accidents lately.


redpandarox

I mean there’re always accidents happening, it’s just a matter of whether they’re being recorded and posted online.


btribble

That's a nice country you got there.


weird_al_yankee

PROVINCE. You mean *province*, not country. -- John Cena


obvious_santa

*Shame if something were to happen to it.*


Roofdragon

*insert naked Putin riding a teddy bear with two LMGs*


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TreasonableBloke

Just in case anybody needed to know this, 66% of the world's semiconductors are manufactured on the island of Taiwan.


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Hyperi0us

no, china controls 95% of the _active mining operations_ that produce the needed rare-earth mats. They can be found in abundance in places like the Atacama, Kalahari, saharah, and US southwest. It's only been the chinese willing to absolutely rape the land for these recourses though since the process of refining most of it is extremely toxic, dangerous and environmentally destructive.


kashuntr188

China is plundering it. But if everybody stopped buying new cellphones every year, then that probably wouldn't happen. We love to blame everything on China, like how they make cheap shit and not environmentally friendly. But we still buy that shit up like no tomorrow. Only we keep pointing the finger at them for stealing our jobs and making everything bad.


jason2k

Power supply not affected yet and no one injured.


cactusvine

Thanks for this, I’m glad everyone is okay.


Jaryjarycontrary

I hate that this happened in Taiwan which is my favourite country.


Squanch-C-137

Taiwan is a great COUNTRY.


Carribean-Diver

Coal conveyors can't melt steel beams!!!


Smac3223

Somewhat random, but if this is Taiwan why do they have English lettering on their coats so largely? Has the English language really invaded that much?


redpandarox

I suspect it was influenced by Hollywood portraying American law enforcement with acronyms printed on their uniforms. Like NYPD, FBI... etc.


pixeljammer

Steam-cleaned coal.


JustARandomUserNow

Well at least the coal was working


Adreamien

Yet, nuclear power plants are still commonly seen as massively more dangerous than fossil fuel plants.


peoplesodumb

Well as long as it's 'clean coal' everything should be fine.


PacMan-7

It appears like that fire crew had just arrived, there is no hose at the back of that fire truck feeding it water to be pressurised, so they are just using the water that is stored in the truck it’s self not sure how long that will last. That nozzle spraying Walter is a great idea as it takes little to no set up time unlike a hose reel. Good job lads.


redpandarox

Finally, someone who gets it. Kinda tired of the countless “they should use more water” comments.


Aivri

Turning all that coal dust built up in the conveyor belt area into a fuel/air explosive...


Exploding_Testicles

I always thought Mickey Mouse was an arsonist..


misterbollocks

You can hear Mickey Mouse laughing nervously


brickyard15

I watch this as I’m literally sitting on a 100ft conveyor in a coal plant lol


redpandarox

Watch out for fire.


punchin_juedi

Two squirts of grease and this tragedy could have been prevented.


TeamGetlucky

Yeah I worked in a natural gas plant for a while. After I quit it exploded a month later.. fuck that lol


threatlvlmidn8

My best wishes go to the beautiful country of Taiwan


BaconConnoisseur

I toured a coal fire plant once and everyone had to spend around an hour each day vacuuming every surface to prevent any coal dust buildup. Dust only takes a spark to instantly make a big fire.


ludwig2023

Coal Company tv ad: the fumes, the cloud, the beauty. Because you cant have all that without coal. F* you Elon Munsk!


mynameisalso

Conveyors catch fire so easy. Just one bad bearing.


Mister_Haaand

Coal fuel can melt steel beams


aronbee

I like the giggle in the background


epikslayerofdemons

My lungs are itchy looking at this


whims-and-worries

well that doesn't look like it's good for the environment


squeamish

In six months this video will resurface as part of the explanation why some weird corner of the market is all screwed up. "Why can't we anyone in the world buy USB-C cables right now? It all started with this one conveyor belt fire in Taiwan back in the Spring."


RAMbo-AF

Renewables. That’s all I’m saying. I hope everyone was safe.


fuckyouguyfieri

At least that big green sign seemed to be holding up.


redpandarox

It’s the small things. A win is a win.


Drumitar

And in canada we pay carbon tax....


Yaboiisrandom

I like how some of the firefighters are kinda sorta giggling


GodsBackHair

It’s interesting to me that fire trucks and firefighters’ gear/clothing is so similar across country. That fire truck has the same patterns as the ones around me in middle of the US. The clothing, while black, has similar reflective markings


redpandarox

Yeah, it’s almost as if it serves a certain purpose instead of just being an aesthetic choice.


GodsBackHair

Oh, totally, I just like how across many cultures and countries, we’ve all found pretty much the same markings as being useful. There’s not much variation


redpandarox

Well there’s also the possibility they were made by the same company.


_Axel

Someone should go get the Hungarian Tank Jets.


When_Ducks_Attack

Well, they've just had catastrophic damage to their power plant, but now they've got the world's largest charcoal grill. Just gotta wait for the coal to start glowing red.


Twitbookspacetube

If only there was some kind of power generation where the fuel is transported in fireproof containers and constantly immersed while in use…


ufi911

"This is truck 4; we are going to need some additional units over here and maybe some water."


jwittkopp227

Oh-the coal dust. I was trying to figure out how a metal conveyor was that flammable


DanOneMillion

Actually the rubber burns really well too


TooFastTim

Someone told the maintenance man just make it fuckin work. So that's what he did.


shamowfski

Coal power plant in Queensland Australia blew up a few weeks ago as well. Largest power outage in a long time.


Vardeegs1

With the loss of that coal conveyor they’re going to have to replace it with something that’s going to have to eat up coal! Wait the probably replace it with something that is up-to-date. Now here in Merica. Our last orange leader wanted more coal to be used and dug up. One thing he did not do was build any coal powered locomotives. Hell we should all have coal fired boiler is back in our houses. I bet a place like Taiwan is going to build a state of the art non-coal fired plant in its place.


t3m3r1t4

This is awful and stop using coal FFS


LewisRiggs9

That’s a real tragedy.


mealteamseis

That’s the single biggest charcoal grill pour i’ve ever seen.


stevenw84

The country of Taiwan, right?


redpandarox

The country of *Republic of China


Illustrious_Sound945

Went up faster than my first marriage.


EdSimonetti

Bruh we’re so fucked rn, I bet shit like this happens every day but goes unreported. I just hope we’re not the last generation to live on Earth.


IMian91

I love the guy doing the "what the shit is happening" nervous laugh when the whole thing flames up


flat_bigfoot_is_real

The color of the fire looks very beautiful ngl


redpandarox

Found the arsonist./s


Lurchie_

WCGR? It's not like there's highly flammable coal dust everywhere . . .


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I hope no injuries...


gunnerxp

Hey this is Taichung. I didn't see this on the news today. Cool.


Snazzy21

I'm surprised that it doesn't happen more often. Mechanical stokers usually have a bunch of coal dust


HarambesK1ller

Am looking forward to seeing this posted next week on /r/popular with that shitty "Oh No!" Tic Tac music merged on top of the original audio. /S


fofosfederation

This seems bad for the semiconductor shortage.


fartsniffer42

r/CatastrophicFailure waiting for an incident to cause thousands of dollars in damage and multiple deaths so they can post it immediately:


Illustrious-End-9184

Me: Taiwan is a country John Cena: I’d like to apologize to China on your behalf


htmlcoderexe

Whoa I felt that flare


LJR07

And that sign just sits there, completely unfazed, not even helping.


4th_Reich_Fan_Theory

Got micky fuckin mouse laughing


NSCButNotThatNSC

"Psst, dude. Coal is flammable."


OreoCheesecake2

I don’t know why but this reminds me of the Hindenburg. The way it burns is almost the same


niceguynolie

Time to shut down all Coal plants worldwide.


Kingding_Aling

Wow this IS a pretty big fire in the country of Taiwan


RedMusical

Coal on fire ??? How did that happen ?!?


IlliterateJedi

I hope that coal was cleaned before it burned


fluffypinknmoist

I love how they say "whoa" in Taiwan just like we do in the States. Global culture!


beepbeebboingboing

The little fire engine that.. tried.


BlockheadRedditor

Coals the one that's really good for the environment right? Unrelated it's been really hot last couple days.....